Tim Gallaudet Says AARO Meeting Was an “Influence Operation”

Graphic accompanying Tim Gallaudet’s account of his meeting with AARO officials. — Measured Unknown

The retired Navy rear admiral described a two-and-a-half-hour exchange, alleged officials tried to change his UAP views and renewed his call for the UAP Disclosure Act; the episode page has no transcript or official account.

Retired Navy Rear Adm. Tim Gallaudet says he told officials at the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO, that he believed a meeting arranged to discuss UAP was an “influence operation.” In a new episode of The Good Trouble Show, he said the meeting lasted two and a half hours.

Gallaudet recalled telling those present: “I’m an information warfare officer in the Navy. I know exactly what you’re doing.” The interview centres on his account of that encounter, his disagreements with past AARO leadership and his argument for stronger congressional disclosure measures.

The show’s episode page is the basis for this report and presents Gallaudet’s recollections and positions, rather than a transcript or official account of the meeting.

His account of the meeting

The programme identifies the official Gallaudet met as Tim Phillips, whom it describes as AARO’s then-acting director. It says their discussion included former Defense Department official Chris Mellon’s criticism of AARO’s historical-record report.

According to the episode description, Gallaudet characterized one participant as a self-described “Title 50 guy” who spent the meeting trying to change Gallaudet’s views on UFOs. That is Gallaudet’s account as presented by the show.

The material reviewed for this report includes no response from Phillips, AARO or the Defense Department to Gallaudet’s description, and the episode page provides no recording, transcript or contemporaneous meeting record that would permit an independent reconstruction of the exchange.

The episode places it alongside his broader criticism of the office’s past work on the UAP historical record.

Tic Tac claims and a push for disclosure

Elsewhere in the interview, Gallaudet restated his view that the 2004 “Tic Tac” incident could not have involved DARPA technology. He also said balloons inside a carrier strike group’s restricted airspace were “not even a remote possibility.”

He described what he says was the disappearance from the classified SIPRNET network of emails carrying Navy UAP videos, and discussed an alleged long-running UFO cover-up. The episode page supplies no underlying records for the claimed disappearance or broader allegation.

His policy focus was the UAP Disclosure Act. Gallaudet urged the Senate to pass it, including provisions he said concern eminent domain.

The interview also refers to a new statement by the U.S. UAP Science Advisory Council. The statement calls for Eric Davis and other witnesses bound by nondisclosure agreements to be allowed to tell the council what they know about non-human intelligence.

The programme says Gallaudet appeared in connection with his memoir, “Holding Fast in Heavy Seas,” which it says covers his 32 years of Navy leadership and later work at NOAA.

The episode page lists two dates

The latest retrieved version of the page dates the 58-minute, 59-second interview to September 16, 2026. An earlier stored version of the same page listed September 9.

Editorial analysis

Gallaudet’s allegation is a new public account of how he interpreted the meeting, not a finding by AARO or the Pentagon about its purpose.

The discrepancy leaves the precise publication date unclear, but both versions identify Gallaudet as the guest and summarize the same central themes: the AARO meeting, his UAP views and his support for disclosure legislation.