Grusch offers Trump an ‘A-team’ to track down alleged UAP holdings

Ryan Graves, David Grusch and David Fravor at the congressional UAP hearing, July 26, 2023. — U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability / Wikimedia Commons

In an August interview now being recirculated, he described the people he could call, the facilities he would pursue and the risk of material being moved.

David Grusch says he could help the White House get inside the UAP programmes he has spent years describing. His offer is practical: bring together people who know where to look, visit the facilities and question the witnesses.

Speaking to Dr. Phil in an interview published on August 13, Grusch said he was willing to assist the president without returning to government full-time. Joe Murgia recirculated excerpts on September 14, drawing attention to the offer and Grusch’s concerns about Stephen Miller’s handling of the subject.

“I know who to call and what doors to knock on,” Grusch said.

Following the material

Asked where the alleged craft were being kept, Grusch described knowledge of government and contractor facilities dating to when his sources worked there. He said he had warned an element of Miller’s task force that officials needed to inspect those sites, because movable records and materials could be relocated once a location became exposed.

His information was not a live inventory. He no longer had a source inside who could tell him everything was still there. But when Dr. Phil asked whether a visit could reach something tangible, Grusch said he believed some locations were likely unchanged because larger objects would be difficult to move.

That is the task he offered to help with: finding where material had gone and bringing the people with relevant knowledge together. He also called for witnesses to be questioned and the locations searched.

More than another file release

Grusch’s frustration extended to how information reaches the public. He argued that releasing documents without explaining them left readers to work out their meaning alone, and said UAP releases needed enough context to be understood.

Dr. Phil shared that concern. He said he believed the president wanted transparency but that the message became muddled further down the bureaucracy.

For readers following Miller’s involvement, the interview adds Grusch’s own proposed role to the picture. It predates Tim Burchett’s more recent comments about staff assigned to disclosure; it is not a new White House appointment or announcement.

The full conversation is below. Grusch discusses his willingness to help at around 32:17 and the facilities and proposed team from 44:15.